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Grateful Dead Live at Fillmore West on 1968-08-22

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Grateful Dead Live at Fillmore West on 1968-08-22


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Saint Stephen, Death Don't Have No Mercy, Turn On Your Love Light Dark Star-> Cryptical Envelopement-> The Other One-> Cryptical Envelopement-> New Potato Caboose, Alligator, Drums-> Alligator, Caution (Do Not Stop on Tracks), Feedback, We Bid You Good Night


Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Fillmore West
Location San Francisco, CA

Source Soundboard
Lineage SBD > MR > C > D > CD > EAC > SHN
Taped by
Transferred by JCotsman

Notes

Notes:
--splice at 3:41 in The Other One
--several minor blemishes during the stereo portion of the show
--minor splice at 0:06 in Feedback
--Sound Forge was used for some minor edits, including a slight pitch correction for an excerpt and to fix a brief repeat during The Eleven.

The Confusion:
There has been a great deal of confusion regarding the date of 8-22-68, and this shn set still has several uncertain elements. Maybe some of this info can help:
--"source 1" (mono), has circulated fairly commonly under "8-22-68", though the Alligator that accompanies that recording is actually the version from 8-21-68. Still, there is no certainty that this material covering Stephen through New Potato is from 8-22. It does not match any other circulating material, though, and the intro from Bill Graham clearly places this at the Fillmore. Furthermore, this show may circulate with Dark Star as the opener, as it follows the Bill Graham intro. However, Bill Graham introduced the band at the start of each set in those days, so I've kept Dark Star where it was on my copy, in position to start the 2nd set.
--"source 2" is in stereo, and has been dated as 8-22-68 from David Gans. This portion often circulates following an alternate mix of the material that would make up "Two From The Vault" (8-24-68).

Other bits of reference:
--Phil's bass is out of tune during New Potato on 8-22, unlike the phenominal 8-24 version
--the Alligator from 8-21 differs as it does not segue into Caution
--the Alligator/Caution from 8-23 differs in that it does not segue into WBYG after Feedback
--the minor cut in Feedback on 8-22 may be disguised on some copies

Lastly, this probably isn't the end of confusion for 8-22, but as of Jan '03, it's a best guess

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Reviews

Reviewer: njpg - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 13, 2015
Subject: 5
Much better than more recent versions.
Reviewer: chris phillips - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 19, 2013
Subject: Alligator>Caution numero uno
I am wholeheartedly affirming praise for this Alligator. The "Jam" is superlative (with no side jams).
This Caution is also a knockout, real subtle.
"Power" jams don't reach this level.
The Dead sounded great by August 1968.
Reviewer: DMT - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 1, 2012
Subject: .
this show will bend your mind
Reviewer: smokingcratersofthemind - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 7, 2011
Subject: What a beautiful embodiment of progression
With some sort of eloquence this by far surpasses the lengths to which the Dead musically progressed as- nothing but true extension of one’s intrinsic spirit, that is music unhindered in its most tender stops walking upon clouds from which beneath we stare, looking up at what music transcendently raises us to. New Potato Caboose surely has transcribed its beauty to this quick place they passed through- August ’68, in which they began to become the shape of their tight and powerful playing of ’69. Though a stop along the way, as each era is, this one most certainly towers above most and gives us a transcendent view from which we can peer to all other eras and see from where they came and to where they go. It is here that they raise this; early ‘68’s comparison-lacking progression becomes what 69 solidifies in strength. The jams merely morph into the more mature and yet youthful form for which they never truly retain, only embody in each moment. What a beautiful embodiment of progression
Reviewer: utopian - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 31, 2010
Subject: Good sounding run
Might be from 2 different sources.

Around the other one it starts to sound really good.
The alligator-drumz-jam-caution is tight.

Night before is ?!?!!!!!
Reviewer: clementinescaboose - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 30, 2010
Subject: love this year!
i agree this starts out kinda rough, with a st. stephen that is hard to hear, but they more than make up for it with some really hot tunes. The eleven following it is really nice, a bit mellower than some of the really firey ones in this year, but just as impressive. The dark star is nice, but i strongly disagree with L. Rosely that it is better than the previous night (8/21); imho that is the best dark star up until the fillmore run of early '69! The Other One is also very good, but perhaps the most impressive part of this show is a mindblowing Alligator>Caution that just never quits. Phil really throws out some agressive, almost funky lines. and although the Caution is short, it's one of the most intense i've ever heard; psychedellic heavy metal in 1968! on my initial listen i wasn't as impressed with this as 8/21 or 8/24 (TFTV) but i think it stands up to the rest of the run quite well.
Reviewer: thewaymouth - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 4, 2009
Subject: Wholly Holy, Batman!
SQ = VG Stereo, for the set 2 jams at least (in TOO Jam, some *snaps* last few min but not intrusive)

Lasting blasting interest at least: Jam #2 > TOO Jam
Now that's a blazing/amazing j for jerry/journey...
Amazing how the band is tight/right/w/Jer who is beyond amazing, on freaking/fucking/fire!

For all around all the different styles for all the mad miles from here to eternity...

G is the greatest g.
Reviewer: L. Rosley - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 3, 2009
Subject: Man, oh, man, a fine, fine show
There are three versions of this show here at archive. This one (called cotsman) is the best: it has the material from 8/22 and is complete. The version called Jools is also from 8/22, but contains only the second half, and is missing some of the best material of the show.
In the one called koucky, the porton from Alligator is definitely from 8/21 – it is note-for-note the same as for the 8/21 show here at Archive.org.

The show starts with a nice St. Stephen, still only a few months old, but sounding much like 1969’s Aoxomoxoa, complete with bells. Jerry’s vocal volume is low in St. Stephen, but comes up in The Eleven. Jerry and Phil duel it out in an inspired jam in The Eleven, fast and electric and just flying. From those heights the band makes a smooth landing right into Death Don’t Have No Mercy—just a fabulous transition. Death is a beautiful performance: powerful vocals by Jerry, perfect organ embellishments, and tight playing and jamming rise and fall in intensity, as do the best Morning Dews.

This Dark Star is one fine example of crafted ensemble improvisation, as tight and masterful as anything from 1974 or 1977. It exceeds the excellent Dark Star of the previous night. August 1968 is the beginning period of the best Dark Stars.

The Dead play a dynamite Other One. It’s tempting to call it one of the best of the year, but there are so many good ones in ‘68. Jerry and Phil are zooming, Bill is going nuts on drums, Pigpen putting the icing on the confection. There’s a nice transition into New Potato, which really rocks. We get an extended Phil solo here, which is rare after 1974.

This Alligator really smokes (the one in Cotsman, the actual 8/22 version). It starts with Pigpen delivering a great vocal. The jam after drums is as exciting as those in the Other One and New Potato, with Jerry and Phil in the zone.

Pigpen gets back into it in Caution with some psychedelic vocals setting the mood for the blast off into space, fueled by the rockets of Jerry’s soloing, coming down for a landing safely into Good Night. Near perfection.

I really like this show.
But this show is part of a great run of shows on 4 consecutive nights: 8/21, 8/22, 8/23, and 8/24 (released as Two From the Vault – which is probably actually one show, from 8/24).
Reviewer: philphanatic - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 27, 2006
Subject: 60's
good caution and feedback jams. the pigpen days in the 60's were awesome, this is a good example. worth a stream maybe not a download. all about preference though. give it a listen


it gets four stars for from me
Reviewer: flashbackmagic - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 6, 2006
Subject: same boat
I have a recording marked 8/22 with the Set list as follows: Dark Star>Stephen>Eleven>Death Don't, Lovelight, Alligator, Caution>Feedback, Goodnight.

My Alligator thru Goodnight is definately what is found here as 8/22, Dark Star through Lovelight is definately from 8/21 according to what I have found here. (and is just sick by the way!!!!)

The recording thru-out my cd sounds to be from the same night. No differences in the sound of the recording. It led me to believe that what I had was the complete set from one night, for the longest time until I saw/heard what is here.


I guess someone took the first half of the second set of 8/21, and spliced it the second part of the second set of 8/22, to make one incredible show?????? Is it at all possible my recording IS just one show? highly doubtful from what now have come to see.
Reviewer: Susep - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 17, 2005
Subject: Jazz is Dead
The last 4.5 minutes of this Eleven is comparable to the Playin's of 72-74 in an open improvisational sense. The jamming becomes so intense the listener experiences a whole new level of sound and intent>spontaneous creation.
Reviewer: outkast - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 21, 2005
Subject: the show
My only comment goes to Flashbak, are you sure you dont work for the F.B.I, my God son you have done your tracking, Also this is a great show
Reviewer: dr. flashback - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 2, 2005
Subject: Magical Mystery show!!
Thanks to Jimi below for raising this question once again. Perhaps eventually someone closer to the source can clear this up, maybe Gans himself??
Anyhooo - let me say I was gonna skip DLing this show because I mistakenly thought I already had it. This is the 8/22 show Jimi mentions from GDlive.com that I also have. And BTW - even though it's an MP3 format version, it IS in stereo and it's surprisingly VERY good quality (256K encoding). 8 tracks of incredibly hot playing, esp. the Death Don't. Whatever date that show actually is - it's worth having, so head over to GDlive.com and get it!
Now to this here show and the confusion. Applying Occum's razor to the problem, my best guess would be that this indeed is the REAL 8/22 show, in full. Since the apparent source is from Dick to David Gans, I would tend to trust they got the dates right, no? The fact that the first set is a mono source may mean it was from a radio broadcast, like the famous KSAN reels. The only mistake in the above show is that Dark Star should come before St. Stephen, as it almost always did. How always? Deadbase only lists St. Stephen played without Dark Star before it TWICE in 1968. First on 6/7/68 when they reversed them as St. Stephen>Dark Star, and then again ?? on 8/22. So the odds are heavily in favor of this tracking being in error, as the text file admits.To be honest, I have not yet DLed these songs, and so I may revise my opinion on the Dark Star position later.
The main differences between the 8/22 version on GDlive and this one, is that the former one includes a Lovelight to close Set 1, whereas this show features The Other One. Both contain the Alligator to the WBYGN sequence, but the GDlive version chops up the tracks differently. Finally, as the CD cover included with the other version shows, it was a circulating bootleg, and is more likely to have a wrong date.
My best guess, Jimi, is that the show you and I have is actually 8/20 at the Fillmore, which does not
circulate for some reason, on LAMA or anywhere to my knowledge. The maddening thing is that in 1968, the set lists were all so similar that many shows almost identical.
As is obvious to anyone that has heard these August 1968 shows, they were really riding a high wave at this point, maybe the best of the year. Listen to "Two From the Vault" on August 24th and you'll see. Hopefully, the remaining Fillmore shows from 8/20, and later from 8/30 and 8/31 will appear.
cheers,
Dr. Flashback :-)
Reviewer: Jimi @ Holy Grail Studios - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 15, 2005
Subject: 8/22/68 ? Maybe?
This is a great show no matter what date it was played on.
Unfortunatly, to add too the 8/22/68 confusion I have a show that floated around on bootleg cd for a while that is the same source as this from Alligator till the end.However,it has 4 trax(Dark Star,St. Steph/the 11,Death Don't,and Lovelight)at the begining of the show that are different from this.These songs are in stereo and appear to be from the same source as the end of the show.However there are fade outs and ins so you can't be sure.
It is a great show also and a little higher quality.If you don't have it,it is worth finding also.
Whenever these songs were played they are great and worthy of anyones collection.

UPDATE 4/15/05 : I just saw the above mentioned show w/ the same date on www.gdlive.com for dwnld.
Reviewer: phleshy - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 15, 2005
Subject: About the Alligator...
This version is indeed stupendous. I'd have to agree that this is among the best ever played. However, the reviewer below says that this version is the filler on the remastered Anthem. This is not correct. The filler comes from 8/23/68, the very next day. Excellent show, nice St. Stephen>The Eleven.
Reviewer: bootleg43 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 17, 2004
Subject: Gator>Caution>Seeing God?
Just as I have correctly picked "THE" Hard To Handle of all Hard To Handles, I'm going to help you all and pick THE Gator>Drums>Caution of all time. And this is THE One, kids. So highly regarded by Latvala, et all, to be played loudly and clearly at the Jerry Memorial... so damn fine as to be played by Gans on his radio show, and ULTIMATELY so damn fine as to be picked as the filler on the remastered version of Anthem Of The Sun. I don't care if you download it here or buy the disc but you just gotta have this little jewel in your collection or life isn't complete. It's a Pig, Jerry, Phil smorgasborg with a little Bobby/Billy/Mickey for the spices. Jerry's runs are endless, AS USUAL. Phil's bass is aggressive, AS USUAL. Pig's vocals are... er... piggish, AS USUAL. The 68 tone of Jerry's guitar is there in full bloom. The boys JAM it and JAM it good and hard. First listen to Spoonful on Wheels Of Fire by Cream... surely you youngsters know who they are... then play this Gator>Caution... no comparison. For cohesive jamming The Dead in 68 blew out The Cream Of The Crop. All ya gotta do is listen and you'll have to admit it's true. I only speak the truth. I know of what I speak. Have fun!
Reviewer: Bill V - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 5, 2004
Subject: Fine Early Dead
Albeit a somewhat shaking start a fine early concert through out including an excellent Dark Star and Jam-Caution-Feedback. Worth the download for sure.
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